I wish I understood all this technical talk. Sadly, I'm lost when it comes to this stuff. I have an iphone5 and have no clue how to do the things folks are talking about here. But it would be fun to try. Maybe one day I'll learn about this stuff.
Marvin Shilmer
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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions
by thedepressedsoul inhere is an idea i tested.
works at both assemblies and conventions.
i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.
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No longer wanting to attend meetings
by breezy inhello everyone.. first post here.
long time follower of this website, probably 4 years now.
i've known about ttatt since ive been 18, im now 22 going on 23 but still go to meetings because of parents.
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Marvin Shilmer
One approach is to express the toll participation is causing.
Tell them what it feels like to have learned the religious history you'd accepted is different from what you learned when looking up that very history as recorded by the religion itself. For example, recently a GB member said that JWs back in 1914 got it right about what occurred invisibly in the year 1914. Nothing could be further from the truth. What JWs (Bible Students) believed and published about 1914 during and before 1914 is nothing like what is taught today about 1914. Then there are all the unanswered questions about how its scriptural to shun JWs for accepting transfusion of one product rendered from blood but not proper to shun a JW for accepting another product rendered from blood. Then there's the religion's history of failing to have an adequate policy to protect children from pedophiles. Then there's the religion's history of lambasting other religious movements when they make false predictions, yet fail to be as candid about their own false predictions.
Unless a person wants to live a life intellectually hiding under rocks there is no way to intelligently overlook these things. Oh, and don't forget to mention what it feels like to be made to feel some questions are best left unasked, even when answers are essential to an important biblical position. It's unhealthy to live like this, that is unless a person gets comfort from being an intellectual cave-dweller.
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things you dont hear: Protest against Jehovah's Witnesses event in central Israel turns violent
by goingthruthemotions init funny how the cult will imbelish on somethings and others they just sweep under the rug and you never hear anything about it again.
i was just doing some searches on the internet and stumbled on this.
i had heard that the dub's were trying to get people to go to israel and then you never hear anything after that.
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after 2 years, getting the courage to read COC. but is is still really relevant?
by nowwhat? inif so why?
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Because the Watchtower organization (JW dot whatever!) was and remains a top-down run organization with little if any transparency. COC provided a documented view into the culture that made the organization.
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You have a $100,000,000 budget to do a global campaign against the WTBS worldwide. How would you spend it?
by JWchange inwhat if by inheritance, winning the lottery or any other way, you suddenly got your hands on $150m after tax.
you maybe would spend a third of this giving your extended family financial security for life.
you maybe would buy a boat and a few investment properties.
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i am of the opinion most GB members would not accept the financial incentive.
If you're looking for the surest and fastest way to influence Watchtower's future by spending 100 milliions bucks my opinion is to buy yourself a couple of GB members, if not more. That would do it.
You have a different opinion. So what?
They would rather die, as did their followers in Nazi Germany, Malawi etc.
The then GB members were all doing things that JWs of the era were dying for. Watchtower's top leadership does not act like they ask their followers to act.
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You have a $100,000,000 budget to do a global campaign against the WTBS worldwide. How would you spend it?
by JWchange inwhat if by inheritance, winning the lottery or any other way, you suddenly got your hands on $150m after tax.
you maybe would spend a third of this giving your extended family financial security for life.
you maybe would buy a boat and a few investment properties.
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Marvin Shilmer
The answer is easy: Offer each current member of the GB the sum of $10,000,000 to step aside as a GB member and write a memoir on their years as a GB member and that must be accompanied by documentation.
Watchtower would be toast as we know it today. Over. Done with.
Multiple GB members would jump on this cash train.
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Great Evening....
by Lee Elder in...with dick and helen kelly.
got to meet joe and barbara anderson and their friend joy on their whirlwind u.s. tour.
wonderful conversation and opportunity to reminisce about our wts experiences and our plans for the future.
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Marvin Shilmer
Hi Lee,
I've been keeping up with Barbara, Joe and Joy as they make their way to and fro across the country. So glad you got to enjoy their company! Aren't they great folks?
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Camping and Watchtower
by JWdaughter incampings org releases their financials.
camping humbly apologized for making predictions and gave it up declaring that he was searching scriptures to be more faithful.. anyway, he had a lot in common with wt belief that all other churches are apostate.
i think the ministry is really struggling.
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Marvin Shilmer
Oh bugger; I didn't know the WTS actually had the audacity to wag their finger at the poor guy...
Yes. They did.
Today that audacity inspired me to be a little creative.
These two special entities (Family Ministries, Inc. and Watchtower, Inc.) deserve a side by side comparison!
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If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel
by EndofMysteries inwhat will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.
bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.
russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.
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Bible prophecy did say Israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back. ...
When the yellow dwarf of our solar system becomes a red giant everything on planet earth will be toast.
So do we really want to speculate about meaning attributed to a best seller?
That path ends up looking THIS RIDICULOUS...
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Camping and Watchtower
by JWdaughter incampings org releases their financials.
camping humbly apologized for making predictions and gave it up declaring that he was searching scriptures to be more faithful.. anyway, he had a lot in common with wt belief that all other churches are apostate.
i think the ministry is really struggling.
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